Once I caught on to what had happened to me had a name
(kundalini/awakening), I came across some work by U.G. Krishnamurti. A
friend lent a book to me of some central thinking from his life. I
remember feeling how spare his view was about all of this. A pathless
path. As humans, we like to fill our lives with the things that serve to
decorate our lives. We are all about the mental jewelry, right? Inner
and outer kinds. So it felt kind of bereft of a certain human feel to
what he was saying. But the thing is, the wonderful thing about all of
this, of awakening, is the less you believe in something, the more open
you are to what is true….potentially at least. You now have a new
channel into this world that is all around you. It is like a umbilicus
that nourishes you, and it is the universe that is sustaining you.
Instead of letting belief get there first to muddy the water with
centuries of error and opinions and half-glances and incomplete
comprehensions, you can get it directly. And perhaps, too, you might
also have your own half glances about it, but it will be yours, and it
will grow organically like a flower bud opening.
You look out from the eyes of your body here and feel the rush of the universe inside of you….and you know that as the soul of the world moves through you as light forms, you are feeling the goings-on that is all around you at incomprehensible distances. This is part of the overwhelm that many feel when they “rise”(the rise of kundalini…) or resurrect into this new life. It is an inward inner-net of life. It would not be stretching it to say that you have unlimited information at your fingertips. This is where the siddhis come from in the Hindu tradition as they describe one facet of awakening, which are abilities. Now on the one hand, they are just this, and should not be given too much weight, but only the same weight you might give them as you give eyesight, hearing, or anything else: they are there now to help bring more information into your life.
In the early days of awakening, I used my desire to know to penetrate deep into this “inner” world. By allowing consciousness to accelerate, you can do what I have done. We all can. When I read the words of Edgar Cayce, who did thousands of readings for clients using a method of going into trance (code for an acceleration of consciousness!), he was able to access what he described as an unlimited library of information. I can’t say that I have seen it as a library, but the image is useful to point you to the place where you and the universe meet. I discovered remote viewing before I even knew what it was. Seeing objects from a distance, describing the interiors of people’s homes who I knew, or feeling into the marrow of the multiverse, I was most interested in knowing directly, personally, what the stuff of the universe was. I didn’t want an article of faith. I didn’t trust that people always got it right. I wanted to enter into a personal and intimate relationship with the soul of the world.
The universe is thus inside of you.
You do not need belief in order to experience the divine reality. This reality, in truth, is merely an expansion of your narrow focus. It has simply unfolded in important ways. In many ways, the right brain, in its capacity to glimpse the big picture, is adept at processing the information that is streaming into you in a moment by moment basis. Why one person picks up on it and another does not is not because of ability, or due to divine favor. It is simply due to less things being in the way of this stream of energy, life, and information. You can let it flow like a river and just watch the surface of this water sparkle or you can dip your awareness deep into it and “grasp” the stream and examine it. In doing this, I have found worlds in a drop of this energy, this water of life. A world explodes into view and is so powerful you have to let your imagination take center stage in order to help to construct what it is that it is trying to tell you. Imagination is incredibly important, central, in fact, if you want to let this world teach you, speaking to you to reveal its secrets.
You don’t have to believe in anything to inherit the universal truths. You do not even need to believe in a deity. You don’t. You just need this connection, this umbilicus that nourishes you and fills you. The trick is in waking up and shifting focus. The energy will itself accelerate your consciousness. Some call this an “altered state” but accelerated is much more accurate, so I use that. It is literally like being swept off your feet by a wind and finding yourself flying where before you had to walk. And really, you can know just about anything that you are clear enough to have come through. As long as you remain totally open without your blinders in the way, you have so much to learn. You can learn about grace, about how this energy has animated worlds, vast universes, and how it has seeded all of matter with sentience. It can show you the relationship between how this energy filters down into matter and turns itself inside out, transforming itself into countless things. When you see things like this you see just how free-wheeling creation is. Suddenly the world stopped being dead matter and became this thing that was alive with a vitality that was incredible. At the atomic level, this creation is taking place constantly and at time scales that are astounding.
If you take a second and then divide that second into 300,000 even increments and then slow that one increment into an hour, what you would be able to glimpse would simply amaze you. You might see just what I saw, which is that matter is not solid at all, but is being supported by way of a stream of quasi-particles that move from energy to matter at ridiculously fast speeds, Speeds so fast, I don’t know that we have yet detected them. And someday we might have a way to glimpse this so science can know it, too, but for right now, consciousness as it exists in your body is perfectly suited for being able to move into these time scales and see the world that explodes into view. With no mass, your consciousness can become small, large, slow in time, or fast. It can also move through time as it does this, too, which is helpful when you are examining the “insides” of all that is. It might seem impossible, or like some drug trip, but I assure you that it is not. This is the potential we have in our hands. We can use it to heal the planet, to change how people see their world from one of dead matter to more than sheer miracle, but zillions of miracles happening on each needle-point stretch of space that is wrapping itself around your flesh.
I know it sounds a little out there. I know. And yet, my experience along these lines was described perfectly in a thousands of years old document found within the Vedas where our ancestors used their newfound awareness in awakening to glimpse vast cities inside of their bodies, where cells exploded into view and revealed to the onlooker that the cells were themselves made up of still smaller particles.These folks were all over it. Old school. And they might not have the technical vocabulary like atoms or compounds to explain it all, but they did very well with what they had. And you have it. We all do. This is the good news.
So yes, I read from time to time of others’ experience….not to know some truth, but to gauge where I am, and to try to pick up new awareness. It usually comes when I am not even looking. I’m just thinking about it and then someone comes around the corner, smiles, and hands me a book saying, “I was wanting to give you this because it has something pretty cool that I thought you might like.” And there it is, a cosmic friend who has arrived in perfect timing to answer a feeling or question in a way that feels like a gift from that universe which winks back at me, urging me on to open even more so it can reveal more of itself. And of course, I am giving something to the universe that is highly personified. But there is an intelligence there that is beyond anything I could even grasp in ordinary consciousness.
This that I am explaining is itself the means by which you can know instead of using belief to prop up for what is a shortcoming now in awareness for you. You do not need belief though, since all of the things that were expressed in the past and written down will come into view to be seen for what they are. And just like I am doing, using words to describe the ineffable, we achieve varying degrees of lucidity of this “formless” presence that gives form to all things. Emptying your mind of what you think you know, you can be open to what is. Like a data stream of bliss, it will move through you. Its grandness is enough to reveal just how wonderful the universe is. It can fill you with grace, awe and wonder, softening you and shifting your awareness.
When we talk about our advancements in technology, this consciousness is light years ahead of using THOUGHT and the force behind all things (its love people!) in its ability to animate, create, play, and discover. We could learn a lot from something like this. “It” is ever present, yet what “it” is will escape you because, I think, it is just so vast. And yet, if you allow yourself to be true inside, you can glimpse the whole in every single of its parts. Like a cell inside a vast body, this is akin to glimpsing the dna or some universal holographic form that has all of itself in everything else. Yep, it will boggle the mind and of course, discussing this in mixed company would get you some funny looks, but the world needs it.
No belief is required. I know that the hymns and the rituals all help make us feel warm and safe, but there is a greater safety inside every moment that will also strip you down of all your faults, errors, and blindness. Seems you have to just let it work as it burrows down into your core. And it can be hard letting go of something you reflexively have held onto but don’t even know what it is. This feeling inside, a broken feeling that you have taken as being who you are when in truth it was simply a story inside of you that you grafted onto your personality. Its brokenness just feels……familiar…..and when this force digs deep it is like a death….but when you open to this cosmic invader, the light illuminates the roots of this and will show you what is true and what is error. And really, this is what sin is about, which is doing that which damages us. Doing this work often means slipping past the subconscious self in order to dig out the roots that you thought were you. It was the devil that you knew. And its simple. Jesus said you needed to be like a child. True. And trusting of “it” in the same way that a child might trust a parent. You put yourself in the hands of this thing….and it can be hard for the most ardent believer…..especially for the believer….because they already have their own ideas preformed about what they think this will be like. And it is different from what most people have thought, so it unsettles them. It is so deep a place of communion, of union with the universal force of all life….and of course many of us shrink back because we feel like we have a reason to feel shame for our sin, for all the roots we let grow inside of us. But this light….it does not care….it does not CARE what you have done. It knows that in this moment, you could unwind centuries of wrong as it dips down into you and pulls out those roots wrapped aroud your energy body that form your negative karma. This is the error of all of us. The reward is simply so grand, why would you want to live another day in prison? Well, that is the illness of humans. We just don’t know how bad we have got it. If you open to this light, it will show you. But to do this means that you get really honest and really open to it. You do not need a priest or priestess. You do not need to believe in a matrix or a 5d world or commandments or any of that. The light will naturally guide you.
Will you fall? Oh, probably. At least a couple thousand times. Get used to it. Just accept this as the price of admission to the next level of existence. If you think that you awaken and suddenly are completely enlightened, you miss the human part, and this is the part missing when we think of those who are “enlightened” because I can tell you from experience that there is no great completely free person full of enlightenment sitting on a louts. It does not exist. And why should it? It just isn’t what is real. Our humanness is. We do not leave our humanness. We renovate and perfect it by clearing it of the junk we put there so we can honor the Presence who made all of this for us here. It is then that you can glimpse how amazing this world is by how your own vessel, your soul made flesh is. But fall, yes. Learn from it….not just how what you did made you fall….but about how compassion can make you better. Awakening give you this rocket boost way ahead of anything you might have known, and yet, you still are little you. It takes a while to catch up. It may be true that it takes lifetimes before you can refine what you capture in awakening. But we have all the time in the world. We do. Existing as soul independent of time, you can glimpse how time is not some kind of race. The grace and compassion built into the creative force that is prana is that we have all of it and more than we need.
This work is like putting a big puzzle together….the puzzle is you…your self cleared of all the pieces that did not fit. Errors, assumptions, beliefs that all sounded good at the time, but wound up not being quite right. And each of these are like blocks for the true light. So piece by piece, you feel this light shine into those cramped places inside of you…..and as each piece goes and is replaced by its more perfect piece, you can begin to feel all the other places where other puzzle pieces don’t fit. Like tight shoes. You wear them for a while and you one day realize, “You know, these shoes aren’t that comfortable!” This is the beginning of the change. Just awareness. So simple. Your own personal awareness has flowing through it the light of the All, and this force has the power to melt and erase and save you from all of these pieces that were installed incorrectly, or were less than joy. You don’t even need to know HOW it works. You just let it in. It is the single most intimate act you will ever do, letting that thing in. No mantras are needed. No prayers, no postures, no methods or techniques. It is what U.G. described as the pathless path. But that path, I will tell you, is simply amazing.
To awaken, you will do so when you are able to remove that which divides you. The more of this you remove, the more this flow will move into you. It is this simple. Some might call this removing blocks from the body, others will caution that you MUST breathe a certain way or else the kundalini will flow the wrong way….and I am here to tell you that this is all the result of the past error in perception because we really don’t have a lot of time left to get this right. The Collective is pushing forward the energy of awakening now in what can only be described as a watershed moment in history. People who have not spent decades in a practice are waking up spontaneously. This ought to tell you something. This is not for the elite, the chosen. It is WHAT everything is, and when you awaken it is just this very thing that you find stringing all of this together into something at once vast and also incredibly simple (like how a galaxy can be resolved into a speck in the night sky).
Sometimes a simple meditation is enough to bring you to enough unity within that “it” revs up and turns into full blown awakening. Maybe being around someone who is awake will remind you of what it is “this” is. I stirred awakening in myself, I know, by resolving a long-standing sense of guilt that I had with the universe about not doing enough in my inner life. When I made peace with that (quite unexpectedly), the waters flowed from then on. My days as the old self were numbered….even as my essence has remained. Two days later I turned and felt this thing…..like a far off song playing on the breeze….and I wondered….how could something be so beautiful? “It” told me that I was part of a family of consciousness, that I belonged, that the story of this family would be what “it” would be revealing to me for the rest of my days here on the planet. Its funny, because this “family” is actually everything that is. That is the family. Every leaf, every atom, every star and galaxy. Every baby, every smile, every action, event, thought, all of it. Nothing is excluded. And if that don’t shake your world, I don’t know what will.
You don’t NEED belief. When you move from imagining what the Kingdom might be like to feeling it surging in your veins and traversing at light speed via prana in your energy system like so many invisible fiber optics, there will no longer BE a need for belief. You now have EXPERIENCE. As this experience accumulates, belief naturally can go by the wayside. And this? This is what Yogi Bajan (I am told—I don’t read his writings) is what makes you the most dangerous person in the world. I am sure he used this for dramatic effect, but its good because in a way it is true. It makes you this person who cannot be lied to. If you see the world of the 10,000 things as the Taoists describe it, but also feel the soul of the world, then you see the outer and feel the inner. You don’t need belief to prop any of that up. You walk by someone and you feel their world of life moving all through them. Loss, gain, love, hate, joy, frustration, and that incessant chattering thought. We have all been this. We are this. But we are potentially more. So beyond belief, yes.
You look out from the eyes of your body here and feel the rush of the universe inside of you….and you know that as the soul of the world moves through you as light forms, you are feeling the goings-on that is all around you at incomprehensible distances. This is part of the overwhelm that many feel when they “rise”(the rise of kundalini…) or resurrect into this new life. It is an inward inner-net of life. It would not be stretching it to say that you have unlimited information at your fingertips. This is where the siddhis come from in the Hindu tradition as they describe one facet of awakening, which are abilities. Now on the one hand, they are just this, and should not be given too much weight, but only the same weight you might give them as you give eyesight, hearing, or anything else: they are there now to help bring more information into your life.
In the early days of awakening, I used my desire to know to penetrate deep into this “inner” world. By allowing consciousness to accelerate, you can do what I have done. We all can. When I read the words of Edgar Cayce, who did thousands of readings for clients using a method of going into trance (code for an acceleration of consciousness!), he was able to access what he described as an unlimited library of information. I can’t say that I have seen it as a library, but the image is useful to point you to the place where you and the universe meet. I discovered remote viewing before I even knew what it was. Seeing objects from a distance, describing the interiors of people’s homes who I knew, or feeling into the marrow of the multiverse, I was most interested in knowing directly, personally, what the stuff of the universe was. I didn’t want an article of faith. I didn’t trust that people always got it right. I wanted to enter into a personal and intimate relationship with the soul of the world.
The universe is thus inside of you.
You do not need belief in order to experience the divine reality. This reality, in truth, is merely an expansion of your narrow focus. It has simply unfolded in important ways. In many ways, the right brain, in its capacity to glimpse the big picture, is adept at processing the information that is streaming into you in a moment by moment basis. Why one person picks up on it and another does not is not because of ability, or due to divine favor. It is simply due to less things being in the way of this stream of energy, life, and information. You can let it flow like a river and just watch the surface of this water sparkle or you can dip your awareness deep into it and “grasp” the stream and examine it. In doing this, I have found worlds in a drop of this energy, this water of life. A world explodes into view and is so powerful you have to let your imagination take center stage in order to help to construct what it is that it is trying to tell you. Imagination is incredibly important, central, in fact, if you want to let this world teach you, speaking to you to reveal its secrets.
You don’t have to believe in anything to inherit the universal truths. You do not even need to believe in a deity. You don’t. You just need this connection, this umbilicus that nourishes you and fills you. The trick is in waking up and shifting focus. The energy will itself accelerate your consciousness. Some call this an “altered state” but accelerated is much more accurate, so I use that. It is literally like being swept off your feet by a wind and finding yourself flying where before you had to walk. And really, you can know just about anything that you are clear enough to have come through. As long as you remain totally open without your blinders in the way, you have so much to learn. You can learn about grace, about how this energy has animated worlds, vast universes, and how it has seeded all of matter with sentience. It can show you the relationship between how this energy filters down into matter and turns itself inside out, transforming itself into countless things. When you see things like this you see just how free-wheeling creation is. Suddenly the world stopped being dead matter and became this thing that was alive with a vitality that was incredible. At the atomic level, this creation is taking place constantly and at time scales that are astounding.
If you take a second and then divide that second into 300,000 even increments and then slow that one increment into an hour, what you would be able to glimpse would simply amaze you. You might see just what I saw, which is that matter is not solid at all, but is being supported by way of a stream of quasi-particles that move from energy to matter at ridiculously fast speeds, Speeds so fast, I don’t know that we have yet detected them. And someday we might have a way to glimpse this so science can know it, too, but for right now, consciousness as it exists in your body is perfectly suited for being able to move into these time scales and see the world that explodes into view. With no mass, your consciousness can become small, large, slow in time, or fast. It can also move through time as it does this, too, which is helpful when you are examining the “insides” of all that is. It might seem impossible, or like some drug trip, but I assure you that it is not. This is the potential we have in our hands. We can use it to heal the planet, to change how people see their world from one of dead matter to more than sheer miracle, but zillions of miracles happening on each needle-point stretch of space that is wrapping itself around your flesh.
I know it sounds a little out there. I know. And yet, my experience along these lines was described perfectly in a thousands of years old document found within the Vedas where our ancestors used their newfound awareness in awakening to glimpse vast cities inside of their bodies, where cells exploded into view and revealed to the onlooker that the cells were themselves made up of still smaller particles.These folks were all over it. Old school. And they might not have the technical vocabulary like atoms or compounds to explain it all, but they did very well with what they had. And you have it. We all do. This is the good news.
So yes, I read from time to time of others’ experience….not to know some truth, but to gauge where I am, and to try to pick up new awareness. It usually comes when I am not even looking. I’m just thinking about it and then someone comes around the corner, smiles, and hands me a book saying, “I was wanting to give you this because it has something pretty cool that I thought you might like.” And there it is, a cosmic friend who has arrived in perfect timing to answer a feeling or question in a way that feels like a gift from that universe which winks back at me, urging me on to open even more so it can reveal more of itself. And of course, I am giving something to the universe that is highly personified. But there is an intelligence there that is beyond anything I could even grasp in ordinary consciousness.
This that I am explaining is itself the means by which you can know instead of using belief to prop up for what is a shortcoming now in awareness for you. You do not need belief though, since all of the things that were expressed in the past and written down will come into view to be seen for what they are. And just like I am doing, using words to describe the ineffable, we achieve varying degrees of lucidity of this “formless” presence that gives form to all things. Emptying your mind of what you think you know, you can be open to what is. Like a data stream of bliss, it will move through you. Its grandness is enough to reveal just how wonderful the universe is. It can fill you with grace, awe and wonder, softening you and shifting your awareness.
When we talk about our advancements in technology, this consciousness is light years ahead of using THOUGHT and the force behind all things (its love people!) in its ability to animate, create, play, and discover. We could learn a lot from something like this. “It” is ever present, yet what “it” is will escape you because, I think, it is just so vast. And yet, if you allow yourself to be true inside, you can glimpse the whole in every single of its parts. Like a cell inside a vast body, this is akin to glimpsing the dna or some universal holographic form that has all of itself in everything else. Yep, it will boggle the mind and of course, discussing this in mixed company would get you some funny looks, but the world needs it.
No belief is required. I know that the hymns and the rituals all help make us feel warm and safe, but there is a greater safety inside every moment that will also strip you down of all your faults, errors, and blindness. Seems you have to just let it work as it burrows down into your core. And it can be hard letting go of something you reflexively have held onto but don’t even know what it is. This feeling inside, a broken feeling that you have taken as being who you are when in truth it was simply a story inside of you that you grafted onto your personality. Its brokenness just feels……familiar…..and when this force digs deep it is like a death….but when you open to this cosmic invader, the light illuminates the roots of this and will show you what is true and what is error. And really, this is what sin is about, which is doing that which damages us. Doing this work often means slipping past the subconscious self in order to dig out the roots that you thought were you. It was the devil that you knew. And its simple. Jesus said you needed to be like a child. True. And trusting of “it” in the same way that a child might trust a parent. You put yourself in the hands of this thing….and it can be hard for the most ardent believer…..especially for the believer….because they already have their own ideas preformed about what they think this will be like. And it is different from what most people have thought, so it unsettles them. It is so deep a place of communion, of union with the universal force of all life….and of course many of us shrink back because we feel like we have a reason to feel shame for our sin, for all the roots we let grow inside of us. But this light….it does not care….it does not CARE what you have done. It knows that in this moment, you could unwind centuries of wrong as it dips down into you and pulls out those roots wrapped aroud your energy body that form your negative karma. This is the error of all of us. The reward is simply so grand, why would you want to live another day in prison? Well, that is the illness of humans. We just don’t know how bad we have got it. If you open to this light, it will show you. But to do this means that you get really honest and really open to it. You do not need a priest or priestess. You do not need to believe in a matrix or a 5d world or commandments or any of that. The light will naturally guide you.
Will you fall? Oh, probably. At least a couple thousand times. Get used to it. Just accept this as the price of admission to the next level of existence. If you think that you awaken and suddenly are completely enlightened, you miss the human part, and this is the part missing when we think of those who are “enlightened” because I can tell you from experience that there is no great completely free person full of enlightenment sitting on a louts. It does not exist. And why should it? It just isn’t what is real. Our humanness is. We do not leave our humanness. We renovate and perfect it by clearing it of the junk we put there so we can honor the Presence who made all of this for us here. It is then that you can glimpse how amazing this world is by how your own vessel, your soul made flesh is. But fall, yes. Learn from it….not just how what you did made you fall….but about how compassion can make you better. Awakening give you this rocket boost way ahead of anything you might have known, and yet, you still are little you. It takes a while to catch up. It may be true that it takes lifetimes before you can refine what you capture in awakening. But we have all the time in the world. We do. Existing as soul independent of time, you can glimpse how time is not some kind of race. The grace and compassion built into the creative force that is prana is that we have all of it and more than we need.
This work is like putting a big puzzle together….the puzzle is you…your self cleared of all the pieces that did not fit. Errors, assumptions, beliefs that all sounded good at the time, but wound up not being quite right. And each of these are like blocks for the true light. So piece by piece, you feel this light shine into those cramped places inside of you…..and as each piece goes and is replaced by its more perfect piece, you can begin to feel all the other places where other puzzle pieces don’t fit. Like tight shoes. You wear them for a while and you one day realize, “You know, these shoes aren’t that comfortable!” This is the beginning of the change. Just awareness. So simple. Your own personal awareness has flowing through it the light of the All, and this force has the power to melt and erase and save you from all of these pieces that were installed incorrectly, or were less than joy. You don’t even need to know HOW it works. You just let it in. It is the single most intimate act you will ever do, letting that thing in. No mantras are needed. No prayers, no postures, no methods or techniques. It is what U.G. described as the pathless path. But that path, I will tell you, is simply amazing.
To awaken, you will do so when you are able to remove that which divides you. The more of this you remove, the more this flow will move into you. It is this simple. Some might call this removing blocks from the body, others will caution that you MUST breathe a certain way or else the kundalini will flow the wrong way….and I am here to tell you that this is all the result of the past error in perception because we really don’t have a lot of time left to get this right. The Collective is pushing forward the energy of awakening now in what can only be described as a watershed moment in history. People who have not spent decades in a practice are waking up spontaneously. This ought to tell you something. This is not for the elite, the chosen. It is WHAT everything is, and when you awaken it is just this very thing that you find stringing all of this together into something at once vast and also incredibly simple (like how a galaxy can be resolved into a speck in the night sky).
Sometimes a simple meditation is enough to bring you to enough unity within that “it” revs up and turns into full blown awakening. Maybe being around someone who is awake will remind you of what it is “this” is. I stirred awakening in myself, I know, by resolving a long-standing sense of guilt that I had with the universe about not doing enough in my inner life. When I made peace with that (quite unexpectedly), the waters flowed from then on. My days as the old self were numbered….even as my essence has remained. Two days later I turned and felt this thing…..like a far off song playing on the breeze….and I wondered….how could something be so beautiful? “It” told me that I was part of a family of consciousness, that I belonged, that the story of this family would be what “it” would be revealing to me for the rest of my days here on the planet. Its funny, because this “family” is actually everything that is. That is the family. Every leaf, every atom, every star and galaxy. Every baby, every smile, every action, event, thought, all of it. Nothing is excluded. And if that don’t shake your world, I don’t know what will.
You don’t NEED belief. When you move from imagining what the Kingdom might be like to feeling it surging in your veins and traversing at light speed via prana in your energy system like so many invisible fiber optics, there will no longer BE a need for belief. You now have EXPERIENCE. As this experience accumulates, belief naturally can go by the wayside. And this? This is what Yogi Bajan (I am told—I don’t read his writings) is what makes you the most dangerous person in the world. I am sure he used this for dramatic effect, but its good because in a way it is true. It makes you this person who cannot be lied to. If you see the world of the 10,000 things as the Taoists describe it, but also feel the soul of the world, then you see the outer and feel the inner. You don’t need belief to prop any of that up. You walk by someone and you feel their world of life moving all through them. Loss, gain, love, hate, joy, frustration, and that incessant chattering thought. We have all been this. We are this. But we are potentially more. So beyond belief, yes.
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